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Tips, Ties And Tactics Leader Knots: Surgeons Knot, Clinch Knot, Blood Knot?
Posted by waterwhippa on Saturday, March 11 @ 09:23:16 PST

Just curious as to what knots the majority of you are using for tying your leaders. I use a simple double surgeons and the improved clinch for tippet to fly connections. Most of my buddies use the blood knot for making their leaders which can take much longer in the cold with numb fingers. I think the double or triple surgeon is just as effective. Any thoughts?


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Re: Leader Knots: Surgeons Knot, Clinch Knot, Blood Knot?
by MarshallD (marshtd@adelphia.net) on Saturday, March 11 @ 10:40:02 PST http://www.flyanglersguide.com
I tie the heavier sections of leaders with blood knots, I hardly ever have to mess with those heavier sections once they're done, only the thinner sections sometimes need replacing. I'll replace those thinner sections of material with longer/shorter pieces of 0x through 7x using double surgeons knots.

Marshall



Re: Leader Knots: Surgeons Knot, Clinch Knot, Blood Knot?
by jason-c on Saturday, March 11 @ 12:53:28 PST http://www.fliesandfinswest.com
For heavier tippet I prefer the albright knot. I learned it while salt water fishing in Mexico. It seems difficult to tie at first, but once you get it down it is actually pretty easy. The albright works great for line to leader connections too. For leader to tippet connections I use the triple surgeon, I used to use the double surgeon but it failed too much. The triple surgeon is cetainly not as pretty as most knots but it is very strong.



Re: Leader Knots: Surgeons Knot, Clinch Knot, Blood Knot?
by LUNCHBOX on Saturday, March 11 @ 17:45:23 PST
A lot of it depends on the sizes of tippet you are connecting. If you are dealing with two ends of unequal diameter and one of them is pretty heavy, then the blood knot will not work well because it requires roughly the same diameter lines. An albright works well in this case because it is pretty clean with the heavy line. You could tie a triple surgeons and it would work, but it is not nearly as clean and wouldn't have a straight pull. When it comes to smaller diameter (2X-7X) then I just use a triple surgeons knot because it is simple to tie and is going to be small rebardless. I like the triple surgeon over the double because to retain good knot strength, the double has to be seated perfectly.



Question about Leader Knots: Surgeons Knot, Clinch Knot, Blood Knot?
by AvidDavid on Sunday, March 12 @ 04:14:42 PST
Sorry for the boneheaded question... but just what is the difference between the double and the triple surgeons knot? (I've seen web pictures of the "surgeons knot." I'm guessing that these pictures are of the DOUBLE surgeons knot.) I'm sure that it is quite intuitive; but, I want to be sure!

With the double, the long tippet end and tag end of pre tippet (leader) go through the loop twice? = overhand knot plus one more time through the loop?

With the triple they go through 3 times? = overhand knot plus two more times through the loop?


 
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